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    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2016
     
    My name is Wes Lynn, I talked some with Willie yesterday about my connection with GBBs. I don't have a connection with anyone in Westchester any more though I've returned over the years, but all family have migrated south to the Vista, CA area. I actually had a burger at El Dorado a year or two ago but was shocked to find the bowling side doors chained up. I guess like other bowls business is not good and they aren't always open 24/7.

    After graduation S'64 I went to SMCC and then transferred to a college in Golden, Colorado. After that I took a job at a steel mill here where I retired in '01 when it closed. I took a final job here in an eastern suburb, Blue Springs until 2010 when I could retire because O'Bama offered cheap health insurance for my wife and I due to the bankruptcy of the mill. I'm a metallurgist by trade, my dad suggested it while he worked at Douglas Aircraft and I was at Orvillle Wright Jr.. We have 4 grown daughters and I believe 9 grand children.

    I have always enjoyed after work sports followed by brew stops. They included basketball, tennis, bowling, and golf until a tired knee caused me to have to stop impacting it 6 years ago. In fact I await an MRI and surgery on the other one right now so I'm hobbling around.

    I grew up on Regis Way and so knew Howard and Bill. I've been catching up on what you guys have said on this site and heard about the sad news about Bill. My best friends back in school were Ernie Goldberg and Bob Kadan, and I still talk and visit with Ernie. I've lost track of Kadan since ~'85 when he was selling real estate in Irvine. Ernie and I considered the 50th reunion but it didn't happen.

    I/m not too computer adept so I'll stop here in case I can't even enter this!
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    Welcome Wes. I don't believe we ever met but all are welcome. Sometimes the conversions get stuck on pause so don't hesitate to throw your two cents worth into the fray.
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2016
     
    Welcome Wes. We need some new blood here. If you have any knowledge of old Westchester people be sure to post it here. Do you remember Charlie Roth? Hoppy Patterson? They were regulars at El Dorado.
    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2016
     
    Hello Pat and Willie-thanks for the welcomes. I'll butt in when I have something.

    I remember Charlie Roth well, quite the character. I believe he lived over by Orville Wright Jr. where I went. He got a kick out of carrying jazz records around and talking to Bob Peters and Joe about artists like Miles Davis. Don't believe he ever picked up a bowling ball although he kind of lived at El Dorado. I can't place Hoppy though my memory is slipping.

    Any word on Charlie since the '60's?

    I believe I read on my diploma or transcript (?) that there were 765 Centurians for what that's worth.

    My main connection to those days has been my friend Ernie Goldberg who was pretty close with Mark Hayes back then.
    • CommentAuthorjoestrand
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2016
     
    Hi Wes-Welcome to the brain trust. Bob Peters lived in the same apartment building as me. El Dorado has changed names I think but it's still thriving.
    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2016
     
    Hey Joe, good to hear from you! Bob P. was a fun guy to work for. I never had any idea where he went when he left work except he got divorced after they had several kids.

    Wow, that seems illegal, changing the name without asking us. Just googled it: "Bowlero", only open from 3/P-1/A. Times change huh. Also, it looks like the old Airport Marina up the street is now called the Custom Hotel (?). Can"t remember the name of the old supermarket that had good ice cream cones next door but looks like it's a Ralphs now. The pool is still across the street. I still laugh about us little kids buying comics and penny candy from Howard Jones Liquor store at lincoln and Manchester (now apparently called Century Marina Liquors).

    As you can tell I like to reminisce.
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2016
     
    Actually Charlie Roth bowled quite a bit, and he was good. I saw him in 1981. He owned a gas station outside of Seattle and I visited him there. He was happily married and was a solid citizen. He was always a smart guy, but did some dumb things. He once lost his bowling ball in the underground return. He stuck his head down there to look for it, and it hit him in the back of the head. Luckily, the ball wasn't going full speed or it could have killed him. There are a lot of good stories about him.
    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2016
     
    Great to hear of Charlie's successful life, just hearing that makes this site valuable for me. That bowling alley and the crowd there was so important to so many of us I think. So exciting to me each time I walked in. There was a family, the Wrights', Rich ("Ripper"), Don (?), and their Dad who built his own house I remember. Anyone stay in contact with any of them?
    • CommentAuthorsolarsteve
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2016
     
    HOWARD SAID TO SAY HI!
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    Steve - What's HOT up to, did he say?
    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2016
     
    Couple somewhat famous guys from our Westchester era I thought about overnight who both lived on Chase. Heard you guys mentioning Ren Ferguson awhile back and I remember him from 3rd grade at Kentwood Elementary through high school. I was bored one day at my last job and I took the senior annual to my desk and looked up people with unusual names. "Ren" fit the bill and this was 8-10 years ago. Anyway it's where I learned what a luthier was and he was said to be the top maker for Gibson and living in Montana(?), headquarters(?). An article said his customers where famous paying up to $100K for one of his. It said he began learning about wood working at a boat maker on Lincoln.

    Across the street from Ren lived Roy (Roric) Harrison who pitched for 4-5 (?) major league baseball teams after several years in the minors where in Syracuse, NY he owned the minor league record for strikeouts at 18. I bought 2-3 of his baseball cards for ~$1-2/each. He had a notice of being promoted at an Executive Recruiting company in L.A.. As I said I like to reminisce -Ha.
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    Wes - Do you remember George Nauve? He lived next door to Howard Thrall. I'd bump into him at Hughes Aircraft in the late 80's. I hear he retired and moved to Mexico someplace.
    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2016
     
    Steve-Hi back to you and Howard. Ask Howard if he's still doing the eye exercises he taught me in Typing 1-Ha!
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2016
     
    According to Howard, George Naeve died a couple of years ago of cancer. I only knew him from playing basketball at the park. He was 3 or 4 years older than me. Maybe Al knew him better.
    • CommentAuthorbetty
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2016
     
    George did pass away. He use to drink at the Hacienda Del Rey On Lincoln. Before he passed on he had moved to Ventura. Betty and I will be going to San Francisco Sunday where we will meet up with Steve. Happy Thanksgiving to all GBBS and family....Al
    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2016
     
    Pat, yes he lived at the corner of Regis way and 83rd St.-next to the Thralls as you mentioned, my corner. His mom was a nurse and took me to the emergency room once to get stitches in my finger. He was tall, I don't remember ever speaking with him because he was older but it seems he had neat cars. Sorry to hear about his passing, I'll pass the news on to my older sister.
    • CommentAuthorbetty
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2016
     
    Wes, you remember well, George was about 6ft3in or4in...Steve if you read this see you in Sf about 2 pm. Iwill call you when we are passing San Jose,,,Al
    • CommentAuthorsolarsteve
    • CommentTimeNov 20th 2016
     
    Interesting read, Russian news here http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/11/russian-navy-reinforcements-on-their.html
    • CommentAuthorsolarsteve
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2016
     
    HAPPY THANKS GIVING TO ALL............HAVING A GREAT THANKS GIVING
    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016
     
    Had my 2nd arthroscopic knee surgery Wednesday morning. Had the same on the other knee 6 years ago. On this 5th day after surgery I'm pretty well over the heavy duty pain killer, just ibuprofen now. If like before it's now 1 to 6 months of therapy/gym work perhaps walking with a cane. Last time any problem jet suddenly ended suddenly and I was back to normal.

    Read a lot from Bill on the tough time he had with his total knee replacement. A friend of mine here had a similar time with one of his replacements, he's still battling it.

    I'm watching yesterday's tape delayed USC-Notre Dame game. Forth quarter and SC they seem to be trading fumbles and touchdowns. SC's been my team since Westchester days.
    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016
     
    last sentence, first paragraph should read: Last time any problem just suddenly ended and I was back to normal.
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2016
     
    Bill didn't do his rehab properly and that's why he had to have it done again. From everything I've heard, you have to do the work even though it can be painful. Since I didn't have any connection to either school, I was a shameless supporter of USC in football and UCLA in basketball.
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    Here's a word & a tip about rehab. First Willie's right, if you don't conscientiously do the rehab your results will be south of ideal. Beyond that if you have a problem that involves immobilizing something for even a short period of time find out the best position that the injury should be in with respect to rehab. I broke my elbow big time about twenty years ago. When the cast was being put on they asked me what position I wanted it in. I figured a 90 degree cast like we've seen before would be the most convenient. Well it was the most convenient position but everything locked up in that position and when the cast came off I couldn't move my arm. It took 11 months, three days a week, to gain back 95% of my motion. What I learned was that it is far easier to regain contraction than extension. If they had put the cast on with my arm out straight instead of bent I would have saved 5 - 6 months of therapy and maybe the last 5% of motion. They didn't advise me about this stuff and I didn't go to medical school. So ask all kinds of questions if you get in a similar situation.
    • CommentAuthorgregh
    • CommentTimeNov 29th 2016
     
    GBB's
    Hope all had a great turkey day. We've got some snow and getting colder, down to 10 tonight. Good to see Wes has joined the blog.
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2016
     
    Hey Greg, nice to hear from you again. Keep up the posting. It was 38 degrees in Vegas this morning.
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    Willie - You can't even make ice cubes for your drinks with high temps like that!
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2016
     
    True, but it's still pretty cold for Vegas. I head south in winter to get out of cold weather. Maybe I should go to Hawaii.
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    Sy Rose told me that Hawaii is 80 degrees all year round.
    • CommentAuthorWes
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2016
     
    Wow, wow, wow is all I can say about your elbow experience Pat. I'll never forget your story. It's amazing to me how little information can be gained from the surgical personnel concerning rehab. It's got to be protecting themselves legally I'm thinking but don't know. They do such remarkable good improving and performing the surgery itself, but then drop us like bad habits during recovery. When someone asks a medical question in general conversation I have a similar answer as you stated, "I dropped out of medical school really early" (as in none). I'm following the instructions as you suggest Willie though some of it's not easy for me. Tissue science is completely foreign to me and the surgeon and physical therapists are nearly mute when I ask questions and they seem to have worked together in coming up with the same comment "Everybody's different". The recovery period on the other knee ended so suddenly that I didn't notice the pain had left until 2 weeks afterwards! So I expect nothing this time.

    In other news: Willie, just before signing in, a brain flashback occurred and I could see the smiling face of Hoppy Patterson from El Dorado-weird huh. Also, on Regis Way at least George Naeve's nickname was Skip perhaps to separate from his dad George Sr.. Great fun!
    • CommentAuthorjoestrand
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2016
     
    Had my 10 year colonoscopy screening today. I'd forgot how much fun it is especially the prep. Every thing was OK so I guess I should drop my "shitty" outlook. Santa Ana winds are try to blow So. Cal away today. Guess I'll hunker down and stay indoors. Had a cold that lasted 12 days so far, so the anesthesiologist wouldn't give me the pain meds since I was still coughing a little.
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2016
     
    We all love the colonoscopy prep. I don't think I could survive very long eating jello. If you have a good burger, you will start feeling better. Get well soon.
    • CommentAuthorjoestrand
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2016
     
    Willie-Went to Denny's and had chicken fried steak and gravy, eggs , hash browns, and biscuits and gravy. I think I overdid it but was very tasty. This is far better than jello. Santa Ana winds are back today and really tossing things around.
    • CommentAuthorgregh
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2016
     
    GBB's
    We are headed several days snow and temps -2-9. Warm spell for December here. If nurses were not so damn cut at Oncology Clinic I might have never showed up.
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    I have been eating Aabazaba that Pat brought to All's bar b q and now I can not talk for my teeth are stuck together for some great time. Other than that, everything is fine. been Trumped and now know how to pray.
    • CommentAuthorbetty
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2016
     
    I watched Wash whip Col friday night. This morning I see that USC jumped Col in the standings and will play Penn State in the Rose Bowl. After the first 4 games of the season I wasn't sure USC would make a bowl game. What a difference QB change can make.... Fight on USC
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      CommentAuthorPat Chambers
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2016 edited
     
    Steve - It's good to see you got religion.

    Check out APOD today. Great picture of a lightning storm in Colorado.
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2016
     
    Al, if USC wins the Rose Bowl that would take much of the sting out of the blowout against Alabama. That was one of their worst loses ever, and giving up 56 points can't be blamed on the QB. They should be set up well for next year.

    If Steve is just now getting religion, it's much too late.
    • CommentAuthorbetty
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2016
     
    Willie, USC has opened as a seven point favorite, your Vegas boys must know something t favor the #9 team over the #5 team, I just hope they prove themselves right.
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2016
     
    It's also nice to see Penn State back in business again after the mess they were in a few years ago. I'm hoping for a good game with USC coming out on top.
    • CommentAuthorsolarsteve
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2016 edited
     
    Willie, you spend to much time in church.
    • CommentAuthorgregh
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2016
     
    GBB's- Snowing for 3rd day and temp headed to 20-30 below + wind chill. Beach weather?
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2016
     
    No beach weather in Vegas. Very windy and cold.
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    Not even beach weather in South Kalif.
    • CommentAuthorjoestrand
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2016
     
    Irvine: Finally got some rain, 3/4 in. now cold 38 this morning. Not bad compared with elsewhere.
    • CommentAuthorgregh
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2016
     
    Well we got 18" new snow at 1:46 Mtn. time of 1:45pm still -3 plus wind chill of another 8 degrees so about -11 and falling. I have perfect dry ski powder in yard. no snow blowing until Monday when we get back to +25. Matter of fact being outside can damage your lungs after 1hr max.
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      CommentAuthorPat Chambers
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2016 edited
     
    And here I thought air pollution was bad for your lungs.
    • CommentAuthorbetty
    • CommentTimeDec 20th 2016
     
    Betty was in Colorado Springs FRI, SAT, and SUN the temp hit 13 below, needless to say she was happy to get home. We both want to wish all the GBBS a very Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year....Al & Betty
    • CommentAuthorWillie
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2016
     
    Thanks Al, say hello to the family.
    • CommentAuthorgregh
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2016
     
    Gbb's- Merry Christmas to all of you and your families.
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    For this year's Christmas stunt I managed to trip and fall face first onto the front porch. Believe it or not used brick is not recommended for application to your face or the rotor cuffs in your shoulder.